Jeremiah Thomas Catling
New piece! First finished photograph of my next show, possible title being 'rib of lilith'
3 hours ago ·
Emanuel Esquivel
Where is the title derived from? Sounds familiar. This is great.
3 hours ago ·
Jori Johnson
love it!
3 hours ago ·
Jeremiah Thomas Catling
Title: alternate creation story, lilith as being the first woman, and rib being an Adam reference.
And yeah. Loving it all around!
And yeah. Loving it all around!
2 hours ago ·
Emanuel Esquivel
that's what I though you were referencing =)
2 hours ago ·
Jeremiah Thomas Catling
Yup yup! I heard this crazy story, and I think it was a belief held by a very small group at one time, but that humanity is actually the decendents of Lilith and not eve which is why we are so broken. Crazy idea but I like it.
2 hours ago ·
Emanuel Esquivel
Ya, from what I have heard its a Jewish myth says lilith was the first woman created but she would not allow Adam to be over her (she would not submit to him) and it drove Adam crazy and she was cast out of Paradise, then Eve came along who would submit to Adam and that's how we all came to be. So we are from Adam and Eve, but Lilith came first and she was not a 'submissive' woman so she got the boot...its a good story to keep women under the system of patriarchy =)
2 hours ago ·
Jeremiah Thomas Catling
or its a story of female power and how it threatens jewish male power systems ;-p
Either way, the idea of broken creation systems is very fascinating to me. As well as why we place importance on our ancestry and who we descend from. Or what it means. Such as, if we don't actually descend from Eve then what does that mean? How would it change our view of the apocalypse and the 'return to the garden of eden' ideas.
Either way, the idea of broken creation systems is very fascinating to me. As well as why we place importance on our ancestry and who we descend from. Or what it means. Such as, if we don't actually descend from Eve then what does that mean? How would it change our view of the apocalypse and the 'return to the garden of eden' ideas.
2 hours ago ·
Emanuel Esquivel
yes, how female power threatens the Jewish way of things, of course.
I totally agree, my own fascination with this myth are those exact questions, that's why your title excited me =) I really enjoy engaging with questions of creation and apocalypse and how Christians view the creation poem in Genesis 1 and 2.
I totally agree, my own fascination with this myth are those exact questions, that's why your title excited me =) I really enjoy engaging with questions of creation and apocalypse and how Christians view the creation poem in Genesis 1 and 2.
about an hour ago ·
Emanuel Esquivel
again, great piece!
about an hour ago ·
Jeremiah Thomas Catling
seriously! The origins of our species according to our faith is a very interesting topic, and beginnings are always tied to endings and endings are new beginnings so it creates an interesting thought processes, as Revelations speaks of the earth remade as new, I believe it implies as the Kingdom of Heaven but that could just be people's opinions I've heard, and exactly what that means.
Something I've always found interesting as well is that even without the knowledge of good and evil there still exists doubt, pain, and struggle: Adam feels lonely, incomplete. With Lilith we have power struggle and the implied (or more explicit... I've heard both) sexual tension of who gets to be 'on top'.
So much to dig into.
And then what does it mean for the world to end is something I've always been fascinated with, and I don't think it will be anything like contemporary christian views. And my largest question has always been, if the world collapses and everything is either dead or dying, will love still exist?
Something I've always found interesting as well is that even without the knowledge of good and evil there still exists doubt, pain, and struggle: Adam feels lonely, incomplete. With Lilith we have power struggle and the implied (or more explicit... I've heard both) sexual tension of who gets to be 'on top'.
So much to dig into.
And then what does it mean for the world to end is something I've always been fascinated with, and I don't think it will be anything like contemporary christian views. And my largest question has always been, if the world collapses and everything is either dead or dying, will love still exist?
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